Interview by Kathryn Gordon with Expert Food Photographer Steve Legato
Website: www.Stevelegato.com
Email: Steve@Stevelegato.com
Website: www.Stevelegato.com
Email: Steve@Stevelegato.com
Kathryn: Steve, I know you did the beautiful
photography for my book, Les Petits Macarons! and everybody loves it,
too. What is your background?
Steve: I first was
interested in being a documentary photographer actually- that was about 16
years ago -but my first opportunity to photograph for magazines was to shoot
food for their restaurant reviews. My passion for photography was immediately
fueled with a newly found intrigue and passion for food; there is just so much
to know and experience and see; tastes, ingredients, techniques, history,
culture, trends, philosophies... Food is
amazing.
Kathryn: Do you specialize in photography for
magazines, books, websites, brochures, packaging, etc. or “do it all?”
Steve: I do all of these,
and each requires a certain nuance in the way you shoot it. Editorial, websites
and such tend to be more cutting edge and creative, whereas packaging and book
photography is very exacting and meticulous. I love and enjoy aspects of each.
Kathryn: We visited your studio in Philadelphia
for a week to shoot for my book with Running Press. Are all shoots done in a
studio? I know that you travel a lot. Are your shoots ever done on site in
restaurants and bakeries?
Steve: I've done food
shoots in generator rooms, bathrooms, kitchens, dining rooms, rooftops, on my
back porch- as well as my studio and on location at restaurants, bakeries.
Where ever there is light (an outlet) and a little room, there is a way!
Steve in his studio
lining up a shot for Kathryn and Anne's macaron book
Kathryn: What are the challenges to food
photography, particularly to pastry, baking and confections? Do you cringe when
you see bad photos of food?
Steve: The challenge is
always to describe the food clearly (even if it’s messy!) I want the viewer to
quickly understand the food as if they were also present there and took a bite
of it…What is the experience of eating this? How does it feel? Dry, moist,
tender, crisp- even sweet, savory, salty, bitter, creamy, acidic, hot, cold...
I'm trying to portray the sensuality of food, of the experience of eating, the
perceptions...
In a purely photographic sense, there is the challenge of
composition; to create a flow to an image, a tension, a sense of poetry or
beauty; sometimes that's based on just the food itself, sometimes on how
elements are arranged within the frame, the focus, point of view, etc.
I do cringe sometimes but more so if I see an indelicacy or
indifference in treatment. That might sound strange, but there are parallels in
almost any occupation; music, cooking, writing, etc. That being said, a bad
picture of an exquisite meal can be a wonderful reminder of that experience-
like a post-it note rather than a poem, and I appreciate that as well.
Kathryn: Your studio had a fridge, basic stove,
microwave and a freezer, which helped to shoot the ice cream chapter! What kind
of kitchen is required to help shoot food? Do you always have to have kitchen
facilities available too?
Steve: It's certainly
nice to have the tools to create the food you need for the shoot. Think about
it like having tools to fix your car, it's easy to have the 3 or 4 things you
need to change the oil, but to change the timing belt, well...
The kitchen is the same way. You can get away with a minimal
amount of tools and some creativity, but if you’re photographing 50 dishes this
week, it indeed takes a full resource of kitchen and culinary tools, and expertise, to get that done and done well.
Kathryn: Do you ever provide the food styling and
props, or do clients typically have to provide their own (or hire food and prop
stylists)? On some photo shoots I've been on everyone has an assistant, too!
The photographer has theirs, the food stylist theirs, and the prop stylist
theirs! It can get crowded.
Steve: I usually work
together with the client to hire a prop stylist and a food stylist when
applicable (cook books, advertising, packaging, etc.) Their contribution to the
final image is invaluable. A great food/prop stylist is behind every great food
photo!
Kathryn: What should clients be prepared with
before they enter the studio for a shoot? (What's the worst-story you can think
of in terms of “bad food photography” you've encountered?)
Steve: I'd say to just be
prepared for the process. It takes great ingredients, talented people, tools,
organization and time, especially the time to make it all work well. Mostly I
think it’s a fun and interesting experience for the client! (I do remember a
chef at a diner wanted to draw grill marks on the “grilled” vegetables with a
Sharpie...I talked him out of it, luckily :)
Especially in editorial shoots, you have to be prepared for anything,
really in quite a Zen way, you see how you can find, interpret, adapt, and
capture the beauty in most anything.
Kathryn: To establish a time frame, how long in
advance do people have to schedule a shoot? How long can it take to receive the
finished product, now that there are digital support systems?
Steve: It takes time to
plan a shoot, procure the ingredients, and hire the necessary crew. For the
major project, you can certainly plan a month in advance (even just to give
enough notice to avoid scheduling conflicts). For me, I'd say about two weeks
are sufficient, but when more people are involved, the more advance you need.
Finished files can be delivered right away -within hours in
some rare cases- but most of the time I'd say a few days a week. It does take
time to clean up images, to make adjustments such as color balance. I'd say
that it's best to be clear with the photographer what your needs (and timing
expectations) are- certainly they should accommodate to the best of their
ability- we are, in fact, working for you!
Kathryn: On average, is there an average length of
time it takes for a shoot? Is the client usually present?
Steve: The time a shoot
takes depends...Editorial shoots are often quite quick—a few hours—even with
~12 dishes (as long as the restaurant can create the dishes quickly enough).
For a cookbook or other more meticulous photography project, you have props, a
set to create, as well as the actual dishes to be made by the food stylist.
Typically, I shoot about 6 dishes a day.
The client is typically present to make certain the pictures
are being made to their specs/needs. (Note by Kathryn: given the digital editing
software, the client can actually see their shots set up in real-time on the
screen and at the end of the day help review the progress made by looking at
all the photos on the computer).
Steve's shot of Kathryn's
strawberry guava macarons as seen on his editing system
Kathryn: We assume someone of your experience
level is expensive. Can you provide any general costs or price ranges (only if
possible in this format, of course)!
Steve: Prices vary and
depend on a few different things including what type of project, how the pics are
used and to what extent, the complexity, and finally associated costs of producing
the images. Think of shooting a bowl of soup for a major soup company vs.
shooting a bowl of soup for a local diner. Within each level of project, there will be a range of prices that you
will find most photographers come in at.
Kathryn: If someone who needs photo cannot (yet)
afford an experienced food photographer, and they're trying to do their own
photo shoots, do you have any words of advice
regarding what kind of lighting generally works best? Any tricks of the
trade you could share regarding setting up the food?
Steve: The best trick of
the trade is to engage yourself and take a lot of photos. Even if the majority
of them are failures, there is a lot to learn from each image. Consider what
direction the (main) light source is coming from. Consider if it’s harsh or
diffused light, a small source like a light bulb or a large source like a
window. How dark are the shadows, how moody? (Shadows define the
surface/textures as much as light does, so please do not try to take away all
the shadows :)
In a very general way, I try to light food side lit or
slightly backlit. If, on a clock face, the camera is positioned at 6 o'clock,
the plate of food at the center of the clock, then I'd want the light to be
coming anywhere from 9 to 3 o'clock, depending. If the light source is coming
from the camera, it tends to rob the dish of any volume, flattening out its
surface blandly, filling in any and all shadows (the same goes for overhead
light in general).
Try setting the dish near a window and shoot facing towards the
window. Then move slightly left or right and see the difference it makes. If
shadows are too harsh, set up a piece of white paper or foam core to reflect
the light back towards the dish. Vary the distance of the reflector to the dish
to change the effectiveness. Try under or over exposing just to experiment.
You'll develop an eye for this, sensitivity and a
sensibility over time. Just keep shooting!
Kathryn: That is extremely helpful information,
thank you for sharing that. Are there any general comments you'd like to share that
we didn't ask about?
Steve: Just like a chef
would say, “taste!” I would say, “see!” Food photography is a wonderful thing
to be a part of and to experience and be effected by, inspired by. I do believe
that a good image makes a difference.
Kathryn favorite macaron photo from Les Petits
Macarons; photo by Steve Legato
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